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Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.21 17:42:00 - [1] CCP is good about being tight lipped about everything. if it is not good PR, or cannot be spun in a positive light they usually will not put it out. GMs withdrawing cash from players for buying isk? Minor setback. TRY BANS NEXT TIME. Better yet, roll the damned character back like someone else suggested in another thread.. (all that will do is cause an isk buyer to transfer all assets to another account, or use other accounts to filter isk without fear of the rollback on a main.. so.. still like the idea ) There are a few of us that have been fighting isk farming in eve for a really long time... Voogru, myself, guys in UCAM... Between all of us we have spent more man-years fighting isk farmers than eve's entire existence from the time it was an idea. And, CCP has hurt our activites... it is a ton harder to hisec gank an isk farmer... But, check this out... 'twtnydc 12' sells a dread guristas invul field to a legit player for 310 million isk 'Danlan shaais' sells an ibis for 300 million isk to twtnydc 12 This transfers the isk back up to 'Danlan shaais' 'Danlan shaais' looks like a small hub character, quite a few high isk contracts going there for 1 cruise missle, or 1 ibis. But, if you REALLY want to see some nice loot, check out: 'karley' He appears to get the good loot and sell it for the other farmers.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.22 17:52:00 - [2] Edited by: Loyal Servant on 22/10/2007 17:52:21 Chinese rice farmers buy GTCs. This is how they play... They literally play for free. Edit: Ok not literally, but damn close.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.23 13:10:00 - [3] Originally by: F90OEX 70 in local atm 67 are NPC bots running around in shuttles and bestowers. Down the list is the same kinda names in local as pictured. Bots in local Wanna put your carrier or Mothership in use and become a -10 overnight this is the system Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity". Uh.... see why people ask for proof. Care to elaborate?
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.26 05:37:00 - [4] IT is obvious that the characters that were 'banned' are still tossing out the usual contracts. Just look them up. I can find 2 or 3 nodes from just 5 names on my list of isk farmers I keep in my addressbook in a 5 minute timeframe. Sending in a petition just to try it = canned 'we are looking into it' response with an immediately closed petition. CCP is friendly to gold farmers, that much is clear.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.26 17:44:00 - [5] CCP has seen this thread, and their employees have responded to it. They tell tales of bans, but the 'banned' group is on my address book and online.. at various times. Bumping this to the top every day as some of you have done only reinforces the very well known fact that CCP loves their money and they are not going to ban accounts that use GTCs because then the GTCs would not be bought, which would hurt them and the companies that SELL these GTCs. (isk farmer accounts are all paid with GTCs) The problem here is not enough community outrage, because 75% of the eve population does not care, and that CCP like money, as in 'REAL' ISK, a.k.a Icelandic kr=na :)
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.27 00:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Saphros I fear that the agents in Orfrold VII - Moon 8 - Poteque Pharmaceuticals Biotech Production needs to investigate the pod pilots they are hiring at the moement. I suspect long working hours and lack of union influence. Real or a joke? If that is real, instead of banning the farmers they just shut the agents down and leave the farmers to keep farming elsewhere?
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.27 16:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Ess Erbe I really want Wrangler to comment on this. Did you flat out lie, or are you actually in the process of preparing a megaban? Good luck on that one. They like ISK.... why ban paying customers? They would ban a smartbombing raven in jita before an isk farmer.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:01:00 - [8] I have learned in my 2 years of hunting isk farmers and macro miners that as long as you pay, you get to play. They are either: A. Unable to do anything about it. B. Don't care as long as their wallets are lined with gold. C. They do things that we cannot even see that just simply do not dent the quantity of farmers in eve, they are inept. This is, for all intents and purposes, cheating. The argument that they ban the receiver of the isk and not the suppliers because 'they did nothing wrong' just does not hold any water. As a matter of fact, that argument that they just blindly give their isk every day unknowingly to another player to 'be nice guys' is just complete and utter fracking BS. Sure, they might be 'following' the isk trail to see who it goes to next but it won't be long before they start trading outside of the public eye in transfers at stations. They will trade 1 rocket for 1 billion isk in the station now is all.... Truth is, guys like Voogro, myself, and anti-isk farmer corps/alliances like UCAM do not have to chase farmers. We don't even get paid, and we have been NERFED by CCP. They don't want us shooting their precious isk farmers.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.28 05:03:00 - [9] Edited by: Loyal Servant on 28/10/2007 05:03:45 Originally by: F90OEX How many times do we have to ask for something to be done, especially the channels AFAIK, CCP only seem to respond to threadnaughts like from redfleet or the t20 incident, or the cloak nerf.... When there are massive quantities of upset people trashing the boards they tend to listen more. When it is civil they read it once and maybe the first pag or 2 of the thread then it's a dead issue and they move on. Oh, and they say they ban people but really don't Edit: its too late and i'm fumbling the kb..
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:02:00 - [10] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Just wait till you get banned and tell CCP that if those ppl can cheat/exploit/break eula then they cant ban you. Either rules are for everyone or for nobody. All eve pilots are even. But some pilots are more even than others. (it seems) Sure they can, and they will. Farmers = $$$ for CCP
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:53:00 - [11] Edited by: Loyal Servant on 06/11/2007 13:53:50 Originally by: Razor Jaxx I'm starting to believe that in spite of their claims, CCP can't be bothered driving ISK farmers & sellers out of the game - probably because they already represent a fair share of EVE's subscription revenue. It is, definitely! Originally by: Razor Jaxx I mean, CCP has total access & control of the database, how hard can it be to cross-reference characters with high corp standings and permanent mission activity with characters that take part in dodgy contract deals (i.e. grossly unbalanced item exchange values)? This could be taken care of by an automated process being run every downtime. Not only that, identifying bagmen using the same means and tracing the distribution of ISK to (supposedly) ISK buyers wouldn't be any harder. The database is likely collecting all relevant information to dismantle ISK selling ventures from A to Z. So it has to be an actual, financial-driven decision not to hunt these people down. I have been arguing this for a long time. is it a financial, business decision - yes. Until the playerbase rises up and says WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE - all bets are off, and isk farming and isk buyers will remain. Until then, we will have CCP trolls like Kieron posting here about their 'rare disclosure of bans' and say they banned one of these isk laundering operations, on the first or second page of this thread... Thing is, the characters are in my address book - and they are still here in eve laundering isk. They will lie in order to continue doing business with isk farmers. Edit: botched quote code.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.09 18:24:00 - [12] I'm with Voogru on this. Farming is so far out of hand at this point that you may as well just shut the thing off. The problem is that there is obviously a market for the isk, which means people are buying it left and right. We need a massive ban stick wielding around here pronto.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.09 22:02:00 - [13] Agreed. popups = bad. Just ban isk buyers.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.10 16:13:00 - [14] Most of us have already established that the 'accounts banned' are still in play and still buying 1 ammo for 500 million isk. I add them to my address book and i add notes to them :) Time consuming, yes.... but I have detailed info that way.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.13 01:10:00 - [15] My Tri pal, you and I agree Yet people challenge how that is 'proof' that guys are isk farmers. Pray tell, how the same account being 1 month old gets 1 billion isk to buy 2 ammo if he is not an isk farmer or just LOVES to burn RL cash on GTCs? I really give up, the fanboys don't.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.13 14:00:00 - [16] No amount of rules will get these guys banned. That much is plainly obvious.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.13 15:52:00 - [17] Originally by: The Chamberlain So, where are they? What systems? And in game, can we do anything to stop them? The Chamberlain Venal is infested. Stain is infested. Lowsec empire is infested by pirates, but not enough to counter mission running isk farmers oddly enough.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.15 13:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Pango Ein "go match" continues to the be ISK Farmer bagman/node however on a reduced scale. All her customers seem to be 2 months old or younger. None of the older ISK farmers seem to log on anymore. I wounder what could have happened to them? Currently they seem to think being in a corp makes them safer, however they seem to make a new corp every day. It started with "Datae's corp" then they moved to Dhakane then "Ali storehouse" then "ceo me Corp" and finally today they have moved into "As Soon Corp" [AS SO]. I guess I could petition this as an exploit: "Dear GM, The members(ISK FARMERS) of As Soon Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) are exploiting the corporation creation to avoid a war dec on their original corp Datae's Corp(ISK FARMER CORP). They(ISK FARMERS) have gone from Datae's Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) to Dhakane(ISK FARMER CORP) to Ali storehouse(ISK FARMER CORP) to ceo me Corp(ISK FARMER CORP) to As Soon Corp(ISK FARMER CORP). By the way did I mention they were ISK Farmers, you can look up the contracts for hves or go match and see them all buying drone skillbooks for 200M ISK each." The response from the GM would probably be "Your petition is denied (check one) (x) The CEO of all the corps are different so it is ok. (x) We are sorry you got scammed but it is not against the rules. (x) There is nothing showing this in our logs. (x) Buying ISK is bad, Mkay?" Better yet I will ask the two corps that have wardec them to petition them. I am watching this so keep me posted.

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